AFH 074: The Past, Present, and Future of Scrum

with Esther Derby, Tim Ottinger, Allen Holub, and Zach Bonaker

Esther Derby (@estherderby), Tim Ottinger (@tottinge), Allen Holub (@allenholub), and Zach Bonaker (@zachbonaker) joined Ryan Ripley (@RyanRipley) to discuss the past, present, and future of Scrum.

A High Performing Scrum Team

A High Performing Scrum Team

Esther is an expert in organizational dynamics and a leading thinker in bringing agility to organizations, management, and teams. She co-authored “Agile Retrospectives: Making Good Teams Great” and “Behind Closed Doors: Secrets of Great Management“. Esther is sought after trainer and speaker.

Tim is committed to understanding and improving the art of software from the angle of “thinking for a living.” He is a programmer, author, trainer and globally recognized coach with over 35 years of real software development experience. His style is practical and hands-on, steeped in both Agile and classic traditions. Tim rapidly communicates concepts and practices, and is recognized for his compassionate and patient approach to working with individuals and has a sincere interest in helping people reach their goals.

Allen is a trainer, writer, speaker, and coach who takes a non-tribal view of software development. He is a highly regarded instructor for the University of California, Berkeley, Extension. Allen eschews the dogma that surrounds many of the current agile topics and practices.

Zach is a self-described “benevolent trouble-maker” and seeks to foster servant leadership that cultivates growth, learning, and discovery. He is a systems thinker who shares his thoughts on his blog – Agile Out Loud. Zach is great at pushing agile thinking forward and has authored many popular posts on next generation agile theories and practices.

In this episode you’ll discover:

  • Impediments to adopting Scrum
  • Management’s role on agile and scrum teams
  • Why scrum may not be the right framework for you

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  • Matthew Knowles

    In the podcast it was mentioned that Jeff Sutherland said he didn’t think Scrum was possible without XP. Does anyone know where that quote or paraphrase came from?

  • Rebecca Stevenson

    What a great conversation! Lots to think about. 🙂

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