AFH 049: The State of Agile with Steve Denning [PODCAST]

Steve Denning (@stevedenning) and Don Gray (@donaldegray) joined me (@RyanRipley) to discuss the current state of agile and how an agile mindset trumps processes and tools.

Steve Denning Presenting about Leadership and Management

Steve is the author 8 books including The Leader’s Guide to Radical Management. He’s a former director of the World Bank. Steve is a contributor to Forbes Magazine, and leads The Learning Consortium for the Creative Economy.

Don is a friend and mentor to me, and a valued member of the agile community. He has contributed to multiple books including: CENTER ENTER TURN SUSTAIN: ESSAYS IN CHANGE ARTISTRYREADINGS FOR PROBLEM-SOLVING LEADERSHIP, and AMPLIFY YOUR EFFECTIVENESS. He co-teaches one of the top agile and leadership workshops available – Coaching Beyond the Team – with Esther Derby.

In this episode you’ll discover:

  • Agile as a mindset vs Agile as a set of tools and processes
  • What the only valid purpose of an organization is…
  • Why it’s important for every person in an organization to have line of sight to the customer

Links from the show:

Scale collaboration, not process. If you’re trying to use agile and lean at the program level, you’ve heard of several approaches, all about scaling processes. If you duplicate what one team does for several teams, you get bloat, not delivery. Instead of scaling the process, scale everyone’s collaboration. With autonomy, collaboration, and exploration, teams and program level people can decide how to apply agile and lean to their work.

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Want to hear another podcast about the life of an agile coach? — Listen to my conversation with Zach Bonaker, Diane Zajac-Woodie, and Amitai Schlair on episode 39. We discuss growing an agile practice and how coaches help create the environments where agile ideas can flourish.

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