AFH 019: Human Refactoring with Bryan Beecham [PODCAST]


Ryan Ripley, Amitai Schlair, Bryan Beecham


Ryan Ripley (@RyanRipley) Amitai Schlair (@schmonz) and Bryan Beecham (@BillyGarnet) started the show by talking about the great impact that Tim Ottinger (@tottinge) has had on their lives and on the agile community.

To learn more about Tim and his thoughts on agile, you can visit his blog:

We then jumped over to the #NoEstimates topic where value and impediments to continuous delivery were highlighted. Bryan also went in to the people side of #NoEstimates and finding the value in the work that we do. We spoke about trust in the workplace and how Industrial Logic promotes trust as a core value.

If there is no trust, then there cannot be alignment. Which begs the question: If the people aren’t aligned, how are they supposed to do great work?

We also noted that the #NoEstimates discussion on Twitter isn’t “safe” at times and that needs to change for real progress and learning to happen.

We then moved in to the art of human refactoring and how people can implement change in their own lives. We barely scratched the surface of this topic and will tackle it again on a future episode.

And then…we called it a night.

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